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First failure

Postby eddypeck » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:26 am

Been using the new mk2 as a daily pretty much since getting it. Almost put a few thousand miles on it already.
This morning it wouldn't start.

Battery had a healthy enough 12.25v, all dash lights, fuel pump primed but nothing on key turn. I assume starter motor failure. Gave it a whack but no different.

So guess I'll be checking out ECP and GSF and hoping they've still got half decent black Friday deals. DeJaVu, starter motor failure was my first break down on my previous mk2. At least this time was on the driveway and not at the petrol pump :lol:
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Re: First failure

Postby Monkey » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:45 am

Do the lights dim when you turn the key?
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Re: First failure

Postby eddypeck » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:51 am

No, didn't think so. I did have the rev counter bounce on one attempt which was weird though - but probably means something.

Have checked out all the usual places and Mark Carter of classic-vw.co.uk has the best price for a new replacement (not reconditioned) at £85 - can't argue with that if it is needed.

I haven't looked at the bike since it cut out on me a few weeks back so had to grab Jacobs Clio this morning. :lol:
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Re: First failure

Postby bacardincoke » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:00 am

Had a starting problem with the 205 a few weeks ago and long story short it was the starter, however when I was working through the various possibilities I found this wee chart about battery conditions and kept it for future use.

Might well be something draining your battery based on the 12.25v you're getting?

Battery Voltage and State of Charge:

12.66v . . . . . . . . . . 100%
12.45v . . . . . . . . . . 75%
12.24v . . . . . . . . . . 50%
12.06v . . . . . . . . . . 25%
11.89v . . . . . . . . . . 0%
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Re: First failure

Postby eddypeck » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:21 am

I'd need to double check the 12.25v I reported, that was from memory. I was initially just looking for over 12v.
I don't know the age of the battery and I know on the old one I changed starter and battery to give me a fresh start and level playing field.
That said, I'd already tried a few starts, had the door open so interior light and it was a cold morning so I don't know what's reasonable to expect.

I've got a good trickle charger with diagnostics and a recovery phase so I'll bung it on there and see what it reports.
But for the sake of messing around and for future reliability, parting with less than £100 to know it's job done will be good peace of mind.
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Re: First failure

Postby Monkey » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:56 am

If you're not getting a battery drain when you attempt to fire her up, I'd say it probably isn't the starter.
Do the dash lights come on when you have the ignition on?

Also, have a look and make sure the starter solenoid wire is still connected, could be something simple.
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Re: First failure

Postby eddypeck » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:53 am

Dash lights come on fine.

I did look at the solenoid wires, they looked a bit crusty but still connected. Gave them a wiggle and squirt of WD, gave the starter a whack.
But this was me needing to leave for work so I didn't put a lot of effort into diagnosis, just put a tester on the battery to confirm I have enough power to at least try and make the starter turn.

At which point I'd probably hadn't even spent 10 mins, but just grabbed the key to the other car.
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Re: First failure

Postby Oakgreen16V » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:56 am

The joys of mk2 ownership!
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Re: First failure

Postby eddypeck » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:11 pm

Oakgreen16V wrote:The joys of mk2 ownership!


It'll be a cheap and easy driveway fix, which probably won't take that long and will only require basic tools and won't have to be plugged into a computer once complete - still joy in my eyes
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Re: First failure

Postby eddypeck » Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:50 pm

Home now so been out to check.

All dash LEDs shining as expected. Fuel pump primes.
On trying to start the hand brake tell tell definitely dims.
Checked battery and it’s showing 12.33v now so must have been 12.35 not .25 early. Lost a bit from repeating the start I guess, the courtesy light and the fact it’s central locking so will use power just getting in.

Haven’t ordered a starter yet, but fairly certain it be worth doing so that’ll be one other job done and forgotten.
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