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Title: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on June 30, 2020, 11:34:23 AM
Probably about time I put a thread up here to note down what I've done so far, the list is pretty long so here's hoping I capture it all.

What has been done so far?

A full engine rebuild has been carried out with various modifications added, including a Newman 268 cam, Kent vernier pulley, polished crank, high compression Wossner forged pistons and mild porting and polishing.

(https://i.imgur.com/FVK5gD7.jpg)

Trackslag OEM slanty system and milltek manifold also added; manifold was heat wrapped before going on.

(https://i.imgur.com/mQUEPrk.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/SYwlAAJ.jpg)

The car now makes a proven 140bhp on the rolling road and you can certainly tell when hammering it.

Dyno vid:
https://youtu.be/j0bB54a9YnQ

New alternator, going from 55amp to 65. Earthing wire also uprated in places.

Various odds and ends also changed, such as wheel bearings, CV boots etc. Changed to pink coolant instead of the blue stuff.

Engine bay was stripped back completely, treated, painted and waxoyled. More pictures on request.

(https://i.imgur.com/hJE7a96.jpg)

Redone bits of wiring in the engine bay to lights, various sensors and auxiliary air valve as they were showing signs of corrosion or splitting.

Fitting a Epytec shortshifter bar which feels great alongside the mk3 weighted shifter.

(https://i.imgur.com/JhfPHup.jpg)

Removed pointless bonnet hinge hook found on early cars and fit a SWG full length scuttle. Alongside this, I also changed the heater intake grille gasket.

New brake discs and pads. One caliper replaced due to seizing.

Fitted KW V1 coilovers as well as new G60 top mounts and had the cars geometry aligned. Fitted plastic strut caps to finish off.

(https://i.imgur.com/HIFP7t2.jpg)

Bought and fitted Ronal Turbo 15 inch wheels and new black tapered wheel bolts to match.

(https://i.imgur.com/iYG1SVe.jpg)

Fitted new MoMo ProtoTipo steering wheel with new MoMo small splined boss adapter.

(https://i.imgur.com/wnHmtFJ.jpg)

Fitted custom made wooden golf ball gearknob, more wooden bits to follow.

(https://i.imgur.com/1l3HacM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uGM8kpZ.jpg)

Fitted good condition FIFFT smoked tail-lights.

(https://i.imgur.com/GY35YNP.jpg)

Fitted 3D lettered number plates.

What have I got to fit?

BBS RS 070 and RS 071 wheels to fit. 8J on the front 8.5 on the back. I've polished these with a drill attachment and ceramic coated for protection.. It only took a whole day.

(https://i.imgur.com/3eEeb0P.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/PVCOWcz.jpg)

Actual 3D printed Hella spotlight covers to replace terrible stickers.

(https://i.imgur.com/QtHf2Uo.jpg)

Various custom wooden bits; pictured above. Just need to fit winders and mirror knobs.

Custom trimmed "OEM+" tweed Recaro LS-C, trimmed rear seat and doorcards. Fitted with custom seat bases made by Chris Earl, painted by myself on my garden table..

Brand new Meyle coolant hoses to be fit. I suspect the ones on the car are original and definitely shouldn't be trusted (ask me how I know).

New door membranes to fit.

Newton commercials sound deadening and felt kit as well as plenty of silentcoat sound deadening. The aim is to remove my carpets at some point to clean them and do this alongside.

New uprated green LEDs for all switch gear inside.

What's else is there left to do?

A lot...

But to name a few:

I've got new panels for the scuttle, rear valance and fuel filler area that will hopefully be sorted in a few months.

Replace drivers side arches as the ones on the car are damaged, I suspect by a heat gun.

Replace roof gutter/rubbers.

May end up going for a respray but I'd like to have a good go with a machine polisher first.

Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: pfnsht on June 30, 2020, 12:18:29 PM
Lots of work done, looking forward to seeing pictures. Some of the exhaust would be good too as I like the sound of the trackslag but haven't seen it on a small bumper car with slanty pipes.
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on June 30, 2020, 01:42:34 PM
Lots of work done, looking forward to seeing pictures. Some of the exhaust would be good too as I like the sound of the trackslag but haven't seen it on a small bumper car with slanty pipes.

Plenty of money spent on it for sure!

Posted a few pictures up to get started, will put a few up at a later date of the exhaust. I'll post a couple of videos to give you an idea of noise too.
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: pfnsht on June 30, 2020, 01:50:07 PM
Lots of work done, looking forward to seeing pictures. Some of the exhaust would be good too as I like the sound of the trackslag but haven't seen it on a small bumper car with slanty pipes.

Plenty of money spent on it for sure!

Posted a few pictures up to get started, will put a few up at a later date of the exhaust. I'll post a couple of videos to give you an idea of noise too.

Whoa beautiful so far! More more haha.

Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on June 30, 2020, 01:57:49 PM


Whoa beautiful so far! More more haha.


Dyno vid added  :))
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: Monkey on June 30, 2020, 03:55:17 PM
Wow! Good effort and great power from the 8v!
Though you may want to think about upgrading the front engine mount to put up with it all.
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: pfnsht on June 30, 2020, 04:15:16 PM
Love a Dyno vid and sounds awesome. I have a vibra techniques mount in my Corrado (also have a dyno video on this forum in my readers ride thread!)  - I don't notice it to be honest but it must do a good job at keeping the engine stable from twisting.

Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on June 30, 2020, 09:22:13 PM
Wow! Good effort and great power from the 8v!
Though you may want to think about upgrading the front engine mount to put up with it all.

It's not quite on the same level as your 32 but it still goes like stink!

I know what you mean with the engine mount, it does rock about a bit. What would you recommend and would it be worth it for a road car?
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: Monkey on July 01, 2020, 12:19:53 PM
Power isn't everything, I still bet your 8v is every bit as fun to drive as mine - and probably far less likely to kill you!!!

I'd recommend going for a solid front engine mount and refreshing the rear ones.
You can get G60 rear mounts that will bolt up to your subframe and will wear a lot better than the standard 8v one.

Some people don't like a solid mount, but I've always used them with standard crossmember bushes and never had a problem.
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: Eddypeck on July 01, 2020, 03:53:14 PM
Still think you should have gone for a 2l bottom end to reach 150  ;)

Looking forward to seeing this again, so glad you've stuck with it are kind of completing the plans I originally had. I think you're looking at similar spec now for my old GTI Engineering on a 1.8 8v. and that had excellent characteristics and was much faster than many bigger engine cars of the era. I remember a particular event around the centre of Bristol with a 2.0 16v Astra GTE  :))  I never managed to outrun that motorway cop in a VR6 Mk3 though.

Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on July 01, 2020, 08:34:14 PM

I'd recommend going for a solid front engine mount and refreshing the rear ones.
You can get G60 rear mounts that will bolt up to your subframe and will wear a lot better than the standard 8v one.

Some people don't like a solid mount, but I've always used them with standard crossmember bushes and never had a problem.

I'll look into this mate, any recommendation on solid front mount? I've seen that Bahn Brenner (BBM) do a good looking one.

Still think you should have gone for a 2l bottom end to reach 150  ;)

Looking forward to seeing this again, so glad you've stuck with it are kind of completing the plans I originally had. I think you're looking at similar spec now for my old GTI Engineering on a 1.8 8v. and that had excellent characteristics and was much faster than many bigger engine cars of the era. I remember a particular event around the centre of Bristol with a 2.0 16v Astra GTE  :))  I never managed to outrun that motorway cop in a VR6 Mk3 though.



No more engine mods for now!

I'm pretty sure it's similar if not more than one of their packages; it's pretty much what I was aiming for. I'll have to let you have a go for old times sake when we're allowed out properly again.

Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on July 01, 2020, 08:39:56 PM
Some of the exhaust would be good too as I like the sound of the trackslag but haven't seen it on a small bumper car with slanty pipes.

Not the best pictures mate, but here you are.
(https://i.imgur.com/XF7EybZ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/tINHh6g.jpg)


I know the rear valance needs doing, I've got the panels and it'll all be done with a few other bits later this year  :D
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on July 01, 2020, 08:53:43 PM
Put a coat of wax on it today to give it a bit of added protection. Scrubs up pretty well I think:

(https://i.imgur.com/lduZ4CV.jpg)
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: pfnsht on July 01, 2020, 10:48:23 PM
Tidy mate, the exhaust looks good. Is the back box quite visible when viewed directly on? I quite like the OEM style with it's small box.

My rear valance also needs sorting and is a lot worse than yours!
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on July 02, 2020, 10:27:05 AM
Tidy mate, the exhaust looks good. Is the back box quite visible when viewed directly on? I quite like the OEM style with it's small box.


It's not an overly offensive size mate but I suppose it's down to preference. I've had comments saying they're a lot bigger than first thought but personally I think it's a fine looking system; they do look daft on a small bumper if you go for the straight system over the slanted though imo.
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: Monkey on July 02, 2020, 01:46:09 PM

I'd recommend going for a solid front engine mount and refreshing the rear ones.
You can get G60 rear mounts that will bolt up to your subframe and will wear a lot better than the standard 8v one.

Some people don't like a solid mount, but I've always used them with standard crossmember bushes and never had a problem.

I'll look into this mate, any recommendation on solid front mount? I've seen that Bahn Brenner (BBM) do a good looking one.
There's a guy who makes them from aircraft grade aluminium.

I always use this guy...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Golf-Mk2-VR6-front-solid-engine-mount/193527869087?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225114%26meid%3D1b4b02ab97284c43b1605de9870f6bad%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D193527869087%26itm%3D193527869087%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26brand%3DVolkswagen&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3Aa3c09c2f-bc61-11ea-bbf1-74dbd1803a1a%7Cparentrq%3A0f8dba241730aa66d05aa197fffc30a2%7Ciid%3A1

This one is for a VR mount, drop him a message and see if he has any normal mk2 mounts in stock.

Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on July 06, 2020, 09:42:59 PM
Minor update for the weekend, I managed to fit the RS's to the car and they do look excellent, although I know the stretch/width isn't to everyone's taste... I also fit some McGard Locking wheel bolts with black tips for some added security.

Aside from this, I've heard from the trimmers and my Interior should be done by the end of the month so that's exciting. Currently waiting on some good replacement arches but I'm still looking for some good roof gutters!

Also waiting for some quotes on welding, sent off a few emails today.

Anyway, here's some pics:

(https://i.imgur.com/9sNKJON.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/OqrOyYM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/YzsNCn5.jpg)
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: pfnsht on July 07, 2020, 11:25:07 AM
New wheels look great.

Are they 15 or 16? Assume you haven't got power steering on yours (I haven't on my '88) - are they much heavier on slow speed stuff?

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: Eddypeck on July 07, 2020, 12:49:35 PM
New wheels look great.

Are they 15 or 16? Assume you haven't got power steering on yours (I haven't on my '88) - are they much heavier on slow speed stuff?

Cheers
Matt

Jumping in on Tom's behalf as the car used to be mine once upon a time (https://www.vwgolfmk2.co.uk/clubforum/index.php?topic=231.0) Yes it does have Power Steering. This one, and my previous 87 both had it. An 88 I had didn't but current 91 does. On earlier cars I believe it was an optional extra, I gather on the later spec cars it became fitted as standard. So it's very much hit and miss if the cars had it or not.
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on July 07, 2020, 01:02:46 PM
New wheels look great.

Are they 15 or 16?


Thanks mate!

They're 15s. Running 8J on the front, 8.5J on the back so a fair step up in width from the 7J Ronals. Offset is a very low number, haven't calculated it properly yet but they seem to fit the car very well.

And as Tim (Eddypeck) says, it does have PAS!
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: makers_mk2 on July 08, 2020, 09:27:50 PM
Eddypeck's Project Lunchbreak car still running!  :))

May I ask where you sourced a replacement rear valance? and is it the whole rear end repair section, or just the lower section below the bumper you've got?
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on July 09, 2020, 07:41:30 PM


May I ask where you sourced a replacement rear valance? and is it the whole rear end repair section, or just the lower section below the bumper you've got?

I've got just the lower visible section for below the bumper mate, as well as the rear arch sections where they wrap around.

I got them from heritage, the middle section looks good but outer bits look like they'll need a lot of fettling to work.. may not use those bits.
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: Mk1mark on September 28, 2020, 12:07:50 AM
This looks lovely - any updates?
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on October 03, 2020, 02:18:23 PM
Thought I'd post up a long overdue update.

I managed to find a few vacuum leaks doing visual checking, the worst of which was the O ring on the Idle air screw.  I'd only noticed this as I'd fiddled with the Idle screw and come back to it a few days later to see that it had moved on its own! Fixing this seems to have made a fair difference to running. I think I'll do a test with a smoke machine to see if there are any more leaks that need addressing.

I also removed the carpet since the last update to get an idea of how much welding the car needed and unfortunately found more areas that need to be sorted. It's in for welding work now and potentially a full respray + underseal. I'll post up some pics as and when I receive some updates!
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on November 15, 2020, 07:21:29 PM
So.. there has been some updates from the body shop.. First of all, here some before pics and some crusty finds.

Rear valance

The rear valance was basically made of filler and I'd instructed them to cut it out and weld in a new panel, here's what they found once cutting it out.

(https://i.imgur.com/mVpNWDS.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/USBKIKu.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/qnlypRV.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/VbyEsHW.jpg)

Fuel door area

I'd also instructed them to cut out the fuel door area and replace it with a new panel, as it was starting to go around the rubber seal around the fuel cap, they cut it out and found the following unfortunately... We're still discussing on how to go about fixing this as they're aren't any off the shelf panels available yet.

(https://i.imgur.com/95IYHg5.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/1FtjQab.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vquLchE.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/1FtjQab.jpg)

In case you can't tell. It has been poorly repaired in the past and even has some form of sealant moulded in with the welds.

And now for progress:

Rear valance repaired

A new panel was welded in as well as using some of the new panels for the corner sections.

(https://i.imgur.com/IuJV5to.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/xoeI4Yc.jpg)

Rear badge

Bubbling around the VW badge meant that it had to be removed and ground back to clean metal.

(https://i.imgur.com/39XDb7s.jpg)

The windscreen scuttle panel

Rust in two places needed to be addressed, under the seal under the drivers side and the usual rust around the wiper spindle. This has been ground back to clean metal and the new panel provided was not required. Channel behind the windscreen seal has also been tidied.

(https://i.imgur.com/iVQ0nS9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/xj9RASr.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/oUqa7Hp.jpg)

Drivers door sill, underneath sill sticker

I had noticed some bubbling under the sill sticker in this area, so I'd asked them to take a look. Here's what they found:

(https://i.imgur.com/K2sPAOr.jpg)

Drivers door

Unfortunately, I also had some nasty scabbing on my drivers door. A section has been completely cut out and a new section has been welded in. I was a little bit bothered that they kept the rubbing strip on but I suppose it is what it is..

(https://i.imgur.com/5HVpr6r.jpg)

That's all for now, there will be plenty more welding and bodywork updates to come.. In the meantime, does anybody have any advice regarding that nasty fuel filler area?
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: AndyBa on November 15, 2020, 07:39:46 PM
Nice neat welding and minimal filler, looks like they are doing a quality job. Wish mine was as neat

Today I found some more of the dreaded rust on mine, bottom of the windscreen driver's side and a few holes round the bottom of the fuel filler cap. Oh 8u993r. Looking at the fuel filler pic above confirms what I have found out. It IS a double skin, I'd been trying to keep the arches clean and thought it was a single skin...so how has the moisture got in there?
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - The rust repairs continue
Post by: UKLonar on December 20, 2020, 07:56:29 PM
Here's a few more pictures of progress at the body shop. Worth noting, I managed to find a good cut of a panel for the inner fuel door area thanks to Brendon Moss.

I've got new vinyl stickers, arches and a few other fitting here that I need to drop down to them to finish the car off too.

Few bits left to do and then the car will be prepped and put in the booth for paint!

(https://i.imgur.com/TC6HANm.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/xVBDHkR.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/hS9MSZi.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/P0HzDQB.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/2YkGsUy.jpg)

Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: pfnsht on December 29, 2020, 10:08:39 AM
Coming along nicely there. Depressing finding the rust but at least now you've found it you'll be good for another 25+ years :)
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - Respray almost complete!
Post by: UKLonar on January 16, 2021, 06:06:22 PM
Had some pics sent through yesterday of the car prepped for paint. Apparently, it'll be in the booth on Monday!  :D

I managed to drop off the new trim. So it'll all go back together nicely.

Anyway, here's some pics in primer:

(https://i.imgur.com/63I7fgi.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/GFaGTX8.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/TzI7K3B.jpg)

Almost there! I'll drop some pics when it's all back together.
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: Monkey on January 18, 2021, 08:08:54 AM
Bet you're getting excited!
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: sly_gti on January 18, 2021, 06:38:45 PM
Nice neat welding and minimal filler, looks like they are doing a quality job. Wish mine was as neat

Today I found some more of the dreaded rust on mine, bottom of the windscreen driver's side and a few holes round the bottom of the fuel filler cap. Oh 8u993r. Looking at the fuel filler pic above confirms what I have found out. It IS a double skin, I'd been trying to keep the arches clean and thought it was a single skin...so how has the moisture got in there?

I think the stud that you use to secure the top of fuel tank rusts partly due to dirt and water getting flicked up from the wheel
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on January 29, 2021, 08:42:02 AM
So, since the last update the car has been painted! Here's a few pics of it pretty much straight after paint:

(https://i.imgur.com/Mqf0B4q.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/53IXHoj.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Rl6KWSK.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/aDyKrjR.jpg)

Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on January 29, 2021, 08:45:22 AM
Also a nice coating of Schutz spray for added protection, which is a nice bonus.

(https://i.imgur.com/K7ntBBX.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/OnzUMZu.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/hQmugpY.jpg)

Almost there now!
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: L90E on January 29, 2021, 12:42:54 PM
Amazing work... bet you're beyond pleased with it.
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: pfnsht on February 03, 2021, 02:48:28 PM
Looking good and looking forward to seeing it back together. You're going to have fun cleaning all the dust out of your engine bay :D
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on February 04, 2021, 08:11:11 PM
Amazing work... bet you're beyond pleased with it.

Definitely mate, I'll be sure to give it a proper once over before taking it away though.

Looking good and looking forward to seeing it back together. You're going to have fun cleaning all the dust out of your engine bay :D

Thanks bud. I'm picking it up this weekend so I'll be putting it all back together next week hopefully, I booked the week off work to do it! I'll be sure to give everything a good clean, I'll make sure the foam airbox is minty fresh. Pictures will be uploaded soon  :)
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on February 08, 2021, 09:39:27 PM
It's back!

Picked it up today and I must say it obviously looks a lot better than it did, that's for sure! Plenty planned this week as I clean it up and put it back together, of course I'll post as I do bits and bobs.

In the meantime, here's some pics from when I picked it up:

(https://i.imgur.com/AKrbRbK.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/1eL41kC.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/KXI5UzL.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/9QDKx76.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gPqBTfg.jpg)

Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: L90E on February 08, 2021, 09:48:34 PM
Very nice indeed... health to enjoy it (best colour too!)
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: Eddypeck on February 08, 2021, 09:53:20 PM
I was going to ask about sill stickers, then I had a sneaky suspicion you have a bbs bodykit up your sleeve?

Looking great though.
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on February 08, 2021, 10:03:53 PM
I was going to ask about sill stickers, then I had a sneaky suspicion you have a bbs bodykit up your sleeve?

Looking great though.

Well spotted bud! Unfortunately, the sill stickers I had provided wouldn't line up properly for some reason. I've got another set which is hopefully being applied Wednesday by a local Vinyl wrap company. It does look wrong without it.

And thanks mate!
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: Monkey on February 09, 2021, 08:32:58 AM
Looks fantastic!
Though first job for you is straighten the Hella light covers! ;D
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: cupracraig on February 09, 2021, 10:28:35 AM
looks great dude!
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: Bamppa on February 09, 2021, 11:56:02 AM
Where to get those hella light covers or are they stickers?
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on February 09, 2021, 09:12:43 PM
Where to get those hella light covers or are they stickers?

Stickers off ebay mate. Let me know if you can't find them.

I do have proper covers to fit as well, haven't got round to it yet.
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: t2000 on February 09, 2021, 10:28:40 PM
Just my personal preference but I do prefer amber rears on early cars instead of smoked, dunno just me!
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on February 11, 2021, 09:34:04 PM
I've been braving the cold this week and got a fair bit done. Started off by removing all the dust from the engine bay and cleaning and reoiling the induction kit foam. I think eventually I'll need to get a replacement, but they're quite expensive!

I also spent a lot of time fitting the new underlay kit as well as new door membranes. Here's my workspace this week:

(https://i.imgur.com/x66iaEN.jpg)

And here's some pics of progress:

(https://i.imgur.com/A27XEeE.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/754Jdc6.jpg)

You'll notice one piece is a different colour on one side of the handbrake cable underlay. It turns out they sent me two duplicate pieces!

(https://i.imgur.com/divqg7N.jpg)

All fitted, although I did have a bit of a mare fitting the drivers seat back in and had to make some adjustment; which was rather annoying after spending all day on it!

Some additional sound deadening for inside the doors, this has made a huge difference already to resonance:

(https://i.imgur.com/AlTRMzl.jpg)

And finally, door membranes. Not pretty, but they'll do the job:

(https://i.imgur.com/jkUUVSp.jpg)

Next up is refitting all the trim pieces and carpets. I'll also be adding a few more sheets of sound deadening in the back.
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: AndyBa on February 13, 2021, 07:09:35 AM
Now there's a thought. I've got some spare sound deadening matting so I may add that to the doors now I need to sort out my membranes.
With a bit of luck it may give that satisfying thud of a newer car when I close the doors :D
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on February 13, 2021, 07:53:56 PM
Now there's a thought. I've got some spare sound deadening matting so I may add that to the doors now I need to sort out my membranes.
With a bit of luck it may give that satisfying thud of a newer car when I close the doors :D

Adding that deadening has definitely made a noticeable difference, so I would recommend adding a few strips here and there. I've also added a few bits behind where the rear door cards would go. I've loads left over and I'm not sure what to do with it!
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: Will on February 14, 2021, 10:04:24 AM
Interesting. Sound deadening is not something I’d ever considered, but if it makes a noticeable difference then feels like a no-brainier. If you want to sell your leftovers, once you’ve done everything you need to, I’d be interested!
Also, the sill vinyl that didn’t fit... Do you mind me asking where that came from? I need to refit one very soon and keen to avoid buying one that isn’t the right size.
The car is looking great btw, inspiration for what mine could look like one day!
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on February 14, 2021, 03:47:41 PM
Interesting. Sound deadening is not something I’d ever considered, but if it makes a noticeable difference then feels like a no-brainier. If you want to sell your leftovers, once you’ve done everything you need to, I’d be interested!
Also, the sill vinyl that didn’t fit... Do you mind me asking where that came from? I need to refit one very soon and keen to avoid buying one that isn’t the right size.
The car is looking great btw, inspiration for what mine could look like one day!

It's definitely worth doing mate, a little goes a long way. I'll give you a shout if I want to shift some sheets, I think I've got about 15 sheets left.

The sill vinyl was from BrownsStickers on Ebay. I spoke to them afterwards and they said that they wouldn't have fit because they were incorrectly applied by the bodyshop. They sent me another set of stickers (for free) that I'm going to try and get fitted by a local vinyl wrapping place. I shall post up an update if this is a success second time around.

And thanks mate, it has been a long journey with a lot of money spent!
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: Will on February 14, 2021, 06:53:45 PM
Brilliant - fingers crossed it fits this time! I’ll keep an eye out for updates. Thanks for the info.
And yes please shout if you want to sell on a few spare soundproofing sheets. Either way, I’m thinking of giving the sound proofing a whirl at some point this year, seems like a good move having read your comments
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on February 25, 2021, 06:05:04 PM
So, a quick update to keep the ball rolling...

I did manage to get the interior more or less back together, all the carpet and dashboard are now back together.. Still a few little bits of trim and fittings to add back but that'll be done very soon hopefully.

(https://i.imgur.com/292bWZi.jpg)

I also quickly installed my new headunit, which I'll get a proper picture of soon.. I've of course set the colour scheme to green to match the rest of the stock interior bulbs. For now, here it is without the faceplate..

(https://i.imgur.com/cTKqJl4.jpg)

Also managed to fit another heater panel as my old one was snapped and barely held together. Bonus for this one is the bulb actually works!

(https://i.imgur.com/apSwV5y.jpg)

Unfortunately, at this point I'd noticed a leak in the passenger footwell. Some of you will be aware that I've had issues with water coming in through the heater blower intake.. However upon closer inspection I'd discovered that my new windscreen and seal were leaking!

(https://i.imgur.com/pkvzSVn.jpg)

I'd got in contact with the bodyshop that had the car immediately and it's now back with them to address the issue. I had done a bit of research into good seals and it seems that the screens from Classic VW (Mark Carter) come highly recommended. We're currently waiting for these to arrive from Germany after numerous "Brexit related delays" in shipping, much to mine and Mark's frustration!

And I'd like to give you a quick 'sneak peek' at my new interior, some of you will already be aware of what I've got planned but here's a pic:

(https://i.imgur.com/61pYRvL.jpg)

Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: cupracraig on March 01, 2021, 09:06:47 AM
you are going to have to wash your hands before you get in the car every time now.. no grubby mitts on the seats
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on March 14, 2021, 06:36:51 PM
I've now got the car back with a much better fitting windscreen seal and after some heavy rain the past couple of days, it appears to be doing the job.. I can't see any leaks so touch wood it seems to be all sorted.

This weekend I've been fitting my new interior, made bespoke for me by Retro Retrims.. I'm really happy with how it has turned out but it does need some adjustments on the door cards as they don't fit very well in the window scrapers, this should be sorted soon though! I also managed to get round to fitting my custom winders to match the gear knob.

The seats are excellent, they're way more comfortable and supportive than the OEM ones. I do have an issue with my aftermarket bases however, they're as far forward as they'll go and it's a bit of a stretch for me to shift gears. Further modification required I reckon....

Anyway, here's some pics:

(https://i.imgur.com/brswQds.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Z7y7jcW.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/IjEDAAI.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/SaafPZs.jpg)

Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: L90E on March 14, 2021, 07:04:56 PM
Very, very tasteful... bet you've randomly been going out to the car just to sit on them!
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on March 14, 2021, 07:20:46 PM
Very, very tasteful... bet you've randomly been going out to the car just to sit on them!

Thanks mate, I went for a OEM style and it looks stunning. I did go out for a drive today just for the hell of it, it would be rude not to!  :))
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: cupracraig on March 17, 2021, 11:05:06 AM
ah this really is mega..

i barely check the forum but its good to see your progress being documented..

get on ClubGTI and this will be very popular
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: rickygolf83 on March 18, 2021, 01:12:55 PM
The amount of work that had gone in to this car since it first appeared on this forum til now is phenomenal!

Always admired it and even more so now. Stunning 👌
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on March 18, 2021, 08:48:22 PM
The amount of work that had gone in to this car since it first appeared on this forum til now is phenomenal!

Always admired it and even more so now. Stunning 👌

Thanks mate, I've certainly chucked a fair few pounds and pence at the car to get it where it is today. I can't wait to start going to shows in it to be honest. Here's hoping we get a chance this year.
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: Will on March 19, 2021, 10:25:37 AM
The seats look awesome, they really suit it. I can imagine they would make a real difference to your enjoyment of the driving experience too!
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on May 03, 2021, 02:21:40 PM
Bit of a gap since I've put up an update, but since the last update I've done a few bits and bobs. From what I can remember:

The interior went back to the re-trimmer to just get everything fitting properly, this included trimming back some foam on the door cards and removing the rear windows and refitting the seals so they'd fit nicely over the rear door cards. A few pics (note a few grubby fingerprints, since removed!):

(https://i.imgur.com/2j3sUUE.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ueWbwkU.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jl7Q7o9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ABZP2Yg.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Or57Ijo.jpg)

I also fit a Dreadnought Customs sound deadening kit for the bonnet, a really nice fit but I did cock it up a little bit in the centre:

(https://i.imgur.com/8rOo2Ru.jpg)

I gave the car an oil change as well to keep on top of things too.

I've still got an issue with cold running and idling, I had worked on the car with another member @cupracraig and we have found that the Idle air boost solenoid relay wasn't in the correct slot on the fuse box. We'd swapped this over into the correct slot, with the expert guidance of RubJohnny and a few resources on here. We thought we fixed the issue, but unfortunately it still persists!

I'm thinking at the moment of swapping out the engine and binning off anything to do with KJET, either for a BAM 20v or 3.2 VR6... I'm leaning more towards the 3.2 swap having owned a Mk4 R32 but going out for a spin in @cupracraig 20v has me torn.. Either way, I'm in talks with Fabless Manufacturing in Canada at the moment for their VR6 conversion bits, they look quite good. Has anyone had any experience with their stuff?

Here's a few more pics I took after a clean:

(https://i.imgur.com/8rb4bTk.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/7NNCeZi.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cbeYZhD.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/GoHF9FL.jpg)
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: Eddypeck on May 03, 2021, 03:59:41 PM
You don’t have an idle stabilisation valve so not sure what rely you’ve swapped!

Pop up to mine some time if you want me to take a look. I’ve still got my fuel pressure tester. You have an adjustable 16v WUR fitted rather than an 8v one, perhaps some fine tuning is required.
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on May 03, 2021, 04:22:13 PM
You don’t have an idle stabilisation valve so not sure what rely you’ve swapped!

Pop up to mine some time if you want me to take a look. I’ve still got my fuel pressure tester. You have an adjustable 16v WUR fitted rather than an 8v one, perhaps some fine tuning is required.

Oops, I meant the Idle air boost solenoid next to intake boot. Will amend accordingly.

Maybe tuning is required, but so many people have looked at it now it seems like a losing battle!

The green/brown relay for it was wrongly in slot 4 on the fusebox, which according to diagrams is for an upshift indicator.. only found on very early clocks AFAIK.
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: cupracraig on May 04, 2021, 09:41:55 AM
You don’t have an idle stabilisation valve so not sure what rely you’ve swapped!

Pop up to mine some time if you want me to take a look. I’ve still got my fuel pressure tester. You have an adjustable 16v WUR fitted rather than an 8v one, perhaps some fine tuning is required.

Oops, I meant the Idle air boost solenoid next to intake boot. Will amend accordingly.

Maybe tuning is required, but so many people have looked at it now it seems like a losing battle!

The green/brown relay for it was wrongly in slot 4 on the fusebox, which according to diagrams is for an upshift indicator.. only found on very early clocks AFAIK.

@Eddypeck we did note that the solinoid was not working, putting in a new relay got this triggering again, so i'm thinking that its now out of tune at cold start. Once its got a few degrees of temp into it, it seems to idle and run lovely
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: Monkey on May 04, 2021, 10:12:33 AM
You know Craig, so you're you local to us then?
If so, you're welcome to have a look around my 3.2 at some point.
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: UKLonar on May 04, 2021, 11:49:56 AM
You know Craig, so you're you local to us then?
If so, you're welcome to have a look around my 3.2 at some point.


Yes mate, not far from Craig. I'm in Weston.

Would be good to see your car in person to get an idea what the swap is like. I'll drop you a message on FB.
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: Monkey on May 04, 2021, 12:20:29 PM
Yeah, that's good, I'm over in Shepton Mallet, so not far.
Drop me a message and we'll work something out.
Title: Re: 1986 8v GTI restoration - You may recognise this one!
Post by: sly_gti on May 10, 2021, 11:36:37 PM
Re: Fabless, I have picked up there v5 engine, gear box and peddle mounts. All look to be to a good standard and pieces of art.

Just keep an eye out on the currency rates and you'll probably have import fees to pay as well, there are online calculators. Every now and then they will do a discount code as well