I know, I know, it's my second 'new to me' Mk2 in 2 weeks!
This one was really unexpected - I initially saw it on Facebook MK2OC sales and had just been listed. I sent it straight to Mr Mac, phoned the guy. There was someone else interested in the car and wanted to view the next morning. Therefore, Me, Ali and Jasmine went down straight away to view. It was fairly local so an hour later we were with the car.
The previous owner was very transparent and very upfront about the work needed - it's not perfect but it seems like a great base to get started and the history is really interesting.
(https://i.ibb.co/Lpqb72R/E3-C44-C32-1309-470-F-BF76-467-FB629-FFF0.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZTwtDkX)
(https://i.ibb.co/DwpD7QD/9-E82-F341-A422-4-C93-B340-F459-F2-EC71-F6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YfZ7th7)
(https://i.ibb.co/pvC5XDS/2-B5-D0-FD6-17-F1-4550-AF71-9407-C7-A999-BF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FbGC7vF)
(https://i.ibb.co/y85tjF0/426-B7-BB1-8-A21-4003-A7-A4-B5-C844-BB0329.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nDf9JMr)
(https://i.ibb.co/k65whg7/F0974-E68-E3-CE-46-AC-8-C13-8-D440-D532185.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/TgdPGTr/817-B446-F-903-B-4876-878-E-9-F26-EAE3-B2-A2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QKtYVcX)
(https://i.ibb.co/nB0JQ89/21-A382-EE-9665-41-CD-A195-B24-F96-A40776.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DYb2wgh)
(https://i.ibb.co/BzymHKg/3-EFA8-A43-6-C3-E-43-A3-A6-B5-9-CCCFD30-C8-EF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2nvw0Yj)
These are the worst bits:
(https://i.ibb.co/NyLmcTH/F3-DD4-DB2-6386-4-D61-B880-AFB05-A29-AD69.jpg) (https://ibb.co/G5VtzHb)
(https://i.ibb.co/2tc4j0P/28-CA06-E5-44-A7-4-F29-B723-9-A7-E1530-BEF6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tsYrbwc)
(https://i.ibb.co/GQWB4dk/63971-B28-DF07-4-C5-D-BD5-A-A5-AF98-EFB2-F0.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xq1Pt2G)
(https://i.ibb.co/QJGWtTb/F8-FDFE08-7118-46-CB-9806-1-C729-A972-A8-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7SF3LZY)
(https://i.ibb.co/7N8JfzM/C57745-F6-E1-DA-484-E-874-A-4-E5-E3-A32-E1-AD.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KzRjPG4)
(https://i.ibb.co/NYFrnDv/40-B07-C41-01-F4-4-AA2-9443-A150-BD9-CA25-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RHgN4rF)
(https://i.ibb.co/VLQw1GW/79-E3-A915-FE36-4-D5-E-AAD4-B8280947416-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hgZY6NR)
So as you can see - much to keep me busy with.
It seems that the arch was hit a few years back and then just filler over - it feels solid underneath but time will tell. The sill on that side will need replacing, a heritage replacement was included in the sale.
It seems that the inner skin was done on the turret but not the outer, previous owner sent me this for reference:
(https://i.ibb.co/dbQ78XM/1-CBB11-F7-5-E46-4-C6-A-A652-5-DCA32-AE5-A25.jpg) (https://ibb.co/M8R9FKS)
(https://i.ibb.co/k2BCHT3/043921-CC-CFCE-47-F5-953-C-7-CEB48-EA0-B2-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7tCmYDg)
(https://i.ibb.co/8j5X5df/D6-F3-D199-8-CC7-416-B-92-DB-B46-C2-ADE7715.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Cn7W7MY)
(https://i.ibb.co/CJ9k4Nb/E50-D60-F0-68-BC-45-E3-9-E1-E-4-F2-C79-E1-CE2-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k3DRzk4)
Still unsure if this is a 'correct' fix so will look to replace this after seeking advice when the sill is replaced.
Anyway, I went back the next day with the trailer
(https://i.ibb.co/qFHcrPb/4-A0765-D9-4-B11-4-F06-B60-B-48-BF9-BFE4-DB7.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2YzCkfX)
(https://i.ibb.co/zrgSs1h/622-F36-A2-5129-470-A-8-FA1-02-E061-A5-DC13.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xDbMhyS)
Jasmine loving the purchase!
(https://i.ibb.co/89Srdfb/B5-C1-AC35-B5-D5-4-F27-9017-B5789-F05-FE87.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3cLpMjv)
So here it is!
(https://i.ibb.co/zFp4BSV/2-E83669-C-D4-B3-4347-B158-1-AEF62-D07710.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cw0rZNh)
(https://i.ibb.co/gvBPShk/D4912774-6727-4-CB2-983-A-EAD6-FFA4-B8-C7.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LQ2JxHV)
(https://i.ibb.co/5WXjXSL/4954-A806-A3-FE-45-DB-8-CEB-3771-E36-CE6-A1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SXDmDMB)
(https://i.ibb.co/VSdy2HT/1-D53094-B-880-E-4-B3-E-A60-A-420-FAE48-EB2-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zR1cG8Z)
(https://i.ibb.co/NWtc4PY/F00149-AE-238-E-41-A0-A3-A8-65-B7604-BFBCE.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ygdH31s)
(https://i.ibb.co/qFNgjF1/EF2-A4283-2-D27-4-D81-9349-6-AE75-F5-B3-DEF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VpgC9pB)
Apart from the obvious - it's a really solid base and really original - even has all the stickers, service history is ridiculously amazing with original first aid kit!
The backstory with this car is quite strange and after some investigation, I've found that it's an April 1984 built car - delivered on 30th May 1984 from Wolfsburg to Schwalmtal (West Germany). It was ordered to spec RHD and taken to Bristol apparently to avoid a car waiting list. I have all the strange German documents below:
(https://i.ibb.co/WVTRCyL/0-C350721-DBB8-4-C95-AB51-5-E86-E73-B7-ED8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QD5x0N4)
(https://i.ibb.co/2y4WHcY/2-D93-B581-8003-4588-BC97-4-F3-C7-DE04-C7-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rmrFN5f)
(https://i.ibb.co/0DnRzHx/947708-B6-DB90-4334-ACAF-C91-B43344987.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZLfpbq0)
(https://i.ibb.co/TLmFCTH/01-C59-E92-A537-4519-AB40-274-B2-AFE5-B67.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rs41WtZ)
(https://i.ibb.co/FmzvL90/BCD748-E2-6-D37-405-D-AA65-94-B54724-A0-DB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CmQd3qM)
Once in the UK - it was assigned this plate and the sold to the director of Epping Motor Company in Feb 1985 to which the plate transferred to "JL40". This owner spent A LOT of money on the car over the years - FSH with a VW dealer, engine rebuild etc. Looking at the history, the car got anything it needed! The plate was removed in December 2002 and then parked up in dry stored from 2003 onwards. There are still invoices from this point for an engine rebuild and other mechanical parts:
(https://i.ibb.co/NsFPjSy/B3-EDA223-9-A97-4-FED-94-DC-050-F3-D6-ECBB5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/47FGTdV)
It was then kept in dry store and sold to previous owner in 2019 who kept it also in dry store at which it looked like this:
(https://i.ibb.co/TYsw00V/6-FFAB3-B7-3840-49-AB-B0-A2-E83-D7-D2496-DF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xXN2ggp)
(https://i.ibb.co/QQhMmX1/3-C97-B36-F-CB6-E-41-EE-AE46-5414890635-A3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SyHBvJ9)
(https://i.ibb.co/9y9pMTJ/35-EDF7-AE-5-DF9-4854-805-C-6-FCFFBECCBA6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gtMrnTG)
(https://i.ibb.co/2S0LZXX/383030-AE-217-C-4124-9309-E78-A5-A9-BFADB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RNGMjLL)
(https://i.ibb.co/kyQs4P1/3002-D299-5-A32-4-D4-D-80-E9-44-E7-D0-ED64-D3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/X4Sr7G8)
(https://i.ibb.co/T4xmWFp/CE6-BC3-CA-584-D-4105-B13-B-574-F240-E4-F14.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pfBJh9G)
Previous spent a lot of money restoring the fuel system and braking system so everything in that department is new!
Therefore, my plan is to get this as perfect as possible! First thing is first - try and work out what is correct.
One person has disputed that it shouldn't have red trim bumpers and another even suggested it should have a single light red stripe grill:
(https://i.ibb.co/d7xKFg2/F1-C3-E0-C3-CC59-47-BF-893-C-FD8-CF8-B28859.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nRtk9Cc)
Any tips and advice - feel free to post below!
As usual, thanks to Ali and the usual suspects for the help!
Hopefully updates to follow in due course!
That looks like an excellent example!
And yes, those red stripe bumpers do look like they shouldn't be there.
Pretty sure red stripe was originally supposed to carry around the rest or the rubber rub strips on the doors, which you don't have, being an early one.
Are the P slot centre caps in the car somewhere? on the storage pics they are there but on your's they're not. I know when I got mine the seller had left them in the boot as he didn't want them nicked.
I saw this come up for sale and thought of you, but knowing you'd just bought one I didn't expect you to buy it. So well done.
Looks like it'll take a bit of work, and it deserves to be done properly but I'm guessing this one will be a keeper.
There's a lot of debate over really early one; such as no red strip on bumper, single light grill and GTI badge on the other side, however that last note I think is because of a German press photo being flipped to depict a RHD car. It's worth bearing in mind there will be photos going about that were of pre-production cars. While the Germans were testing and fine tuning, some of those pics would have been given to the press to announce the car that would soon be available.
I guess if you take off the bumpers and find out if they are genuine VW or not, if so there's a stronger chance they will be original. Also most plastic parts a stamped with a date wheel, so you may find one on the inside of the bumper skins. This would prove it one way or another and end the debate :))
And finally, welcome to the world of K-Jet
Thanks both!
Fortunatley I do have the p slot centres in the car - the car has one on to see if they fitted properly!
Yeah this one would be a keeper and actually I didn't expect to buy either Mk2 but I saw this and couldn't pass it up especially being local!
Interestingly, I just had a chat with the first owner - he stated loads of little anecdotes which were great. For example, the engine was making a weird noise so they did a full engine rebuild and realised it was just a HT lead arching on the cylinder head.
Weirdly, he did say that the car had a light upgrade - he said he couldn't remember if the spotlamps were the upgrade or the units were upgraded. The main lights look original so I think it's likely it had a single grill from Germany and possibly LHD lights. Although he did state the bumpers were red stripe from factory which doesn't agree with other A reg GTI's.
Hopefully I can get these little issues ironed out, not that it really matters to anyone apart from us on here!
Ok so this is odd, there is a registration window of August 1983 - July 1984 for it to be an A reg.
According to online checks you have a build year of 1984 and a first reg date of 17 August 1984, check your V5. But by my reckoning that would mean it should be a B reg.
Maybe it was pre-reg by the dealer hence the late A reg. End of year models are often offered with deals to clear stock. This may have been the case ready for the 85 model.
I know you can't really go off reg date as you don't know how long a car has sat in stock, but I know you can check build week off of the boot sticker or work it out form the VIN. Regardless, but it looks like your car is from the very end of the first year run. (Bear in mind a VW production year is not a calendar year, and is slightly out of sync with registration years so sometime around June to September the 85 spec would be launched.
So it's very likely the factory floor would start to roll out 85 spec parts as this seems the trend for every other year. The cars evolved throughout their production period and it seems when VW decided on an update they started it there and then, it's only the major facelifts that actually saw them a 'new' models.
The alternative might be the dealer fitted some 'newer' parts to help the car sell once the 85 models hit the show room. So I have no reason to think the bumper or grill are anything different to how it left the showroom. How it left the factory is debatable, but either way red trim bumpers and quad lamp grills make a GTI for me so I wouldn't go changing it.
Either way, cracking car, can't wait to see how you tackle this one. Please keep us updated .... I'd start by tearing it apart.
[EDIT:]
Looking at the pics from the sale ad, that looks like the red stripe might be a stick on vinyl strip anyway. Not the red rubber insert of the later cars. Maybe applied by the dealer ??
(https://scontent-man2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/174520534_10219137704929545_524067649170689653_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=b9115d&_nc_ohc=9rrHlecD0QgAX8qfyNS&_nc_ht=scontent-man2-1.xx&oh=1c6da6cfa0e8d283890a04d6628cfe6a&oe=60A252C3)
Ok so this is odd, there is a registration window of August 1983 - July 1984 for it to be an A reg.
According to online checks you have a build year of 1984 and a first reg date of 17 August 1984, check your V5. But by my reckoning that would mean it should be a B reg.
Maybe it was pre-reg by the dealer hence the late A reg. End of year models are often offered with deals to clear stock. This may have been the case ready for the 85 model.
I know you can't really go off reg date as you don't know how long a car has sat in stock, but I know you can check build week off of the boot sticker or work it out form the VIN. Regardless, but it looks like your car is from the very end of the first year run. (Bear in mind a VW production year is not a calendar year, and is slightly out of sync with registration years so sometime around June to September the 85 spec would be launched.
So it's very likely the factory floor would start to roll out 85 spec parts as this seems the trend for every other year. The cars evolved throughout their production period and it seems when VW decided on an update they started it there and then, it's only the major facelifts that actually saw them a 'new' models.
The alternative might be the dealer fitted some 'newer' parts to help the car sell once the 85 models hit the show room. So I have no reason to think the bumper or grill are anything different to how it left the showroom. How it left the factory is debatable, but either way red trim bumpers and quad lamp grills make a GTI for me so I wouldn't go changing it.
Either way, cracking car, can't wait to see how you tackle this one. Please keep us updated .... I'd start by tearing it apart.
[EDIT:]
Looking at the pics from the sale ad, that looks like the red stripe might be a stick on vinyl strip anyway. Not the red rubber insert of the later cars. Maybe applied by the dealer ??
(https://scontent-man2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/174520534_10219137704929545_524067649170689653_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=b9115d&_nc_ohc=9rrHlecD0QgAX8qfyNS&_nc_ht=scontent-man2-1.xx&oh=1c6da6cfa0e8d283890a04d6628cfe6a&oe=60A252C3)
Where did you find the for sale ad, I missed the pictures and yeah I just discovered the same thing not so long ago - it looks to be just a vinyl tape - so I’ll get that sorted.
It’s weird the boot sticker is as follows:
(https://i.ibb.co/86FSCfm/A73-BDC05-E382-4405-9-FFA-54-EBDDF478-A2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zGK0MBm)
(https://i.ibb.co/dgsYNhX/232557-F9-EB64-41-F2-B060-61-E89-ABB48-E5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ySmjz3K)
(https://i.ibb.co/pJn2GSH/D010032-B-524-C-41-F1-A915-453240826945.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Rz72ZqX)
So it looks that the car built on the 20th Week of 1984 on the 3rd Wednesday. So, looks to be 16th May 1984. I have a delivery date of 30th May 1984 and then V5 is registered 17th August 1984.
I think it “should” have a single red stripe grill but the odds of me finding one are pretty common actually. I think the plan therefore is to keep the quads and find another grill with genuine red stripe and badge whilst removing the coach tape. Therefore, that follows a genuine A reg UK spec car rather than a German one.
Hopefully, It’ll look good at least when the car is finished!
I'm guessing it took a while to get to the UK and was registered in August 84 but got an A plate because it is actually a pre Aug 84 car that had been on the road.
I'm assuming it has the early clocks with econ needle.
That’s my understanding too! And yes it does - needles working and all the clocks working too. Was quite surprised even the external temp works!
(https://i.ibb.co/x7TdTMw/0-DF34-BC2-9758-4044-A652-C95359981844.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KrvSv9B)
Can you check if the drivers seat is height adjustable? I had an 85 seat for spares and it was fixed. I wasn't sure if height adjust was a age related addition or 86 onwards.
It's these little additions that help build a profile of the evolution of the car throughout the production life.
The Original sale post that I spotted it on: https://www.facebook.com/groups/230231787160153/permalink/1777600222423294/
There will be lots of little things you might spot when you start to compare with the 88.
On the inside of the tailgate, halfway along the pillar you might find rubber grommets on the 84 that are not there on the 88, I guess they are to aid with access to the wiring for the heated screen. I assume that they discovered a way to improve production and these were no longer needed.
Also your boot lock, the whole body of it, should be cast aluminium not plastic.
Can you check if the drivers seat is height adjustable? I had an 85 seat for spares and it was fixed. I wasn't sure if height adjust was a age related addition or 86 onwards.
It's these little additions that help build a profile of the evolution of the car throughout the production life.
The Original sale post that I spotted it on: https://www.facebook.com/groups/230231787160153/permalink/1777600222423294/
There will be lots of little things you might spot when you start to compare with the 88.
On the inside of the tailgate, halfway along the pillar you might find rubber grommets on the 84 that are not there on the 88, I guess they are to aid with access to the wiring for the heated screen. I assume that they discovered a way to improve production and these were no longer needed.
Also your boot lock, the whole body of it, should be cast aluminium not plastic.
You’re right! Pictures below:
(https://i.ibb.co/2hzs6Db/4-C4-A61-A4-21-D2-4-D76-95-BF-5-BAEE9-D2-DDD6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kBL9yRd)
(https://i.ibb.co/Qmv5Kj0/51-E9895-E-FA55-4923-BC0-D-B099-BB30-CBCB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/w6hvzrt)
(https://i.ibb.co/X5QXZYV/9-E0566-BE-C33-D-4-AD0-A347-F124090-CFDA4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3F31yRk)
Such strange differences I would have never noticed!
It's the push button itself, where the lock barrel goes that is cast alloy.
(https://www.partsplaceinc.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/1/vw-mk2-golf-hatch-lock-11657.jpg)
Looks a cracking original car there, KJets are so much more lively than digi I found, I also think the very early interior like that look the best, I also prefer the shifter bellows over the later style.
Good luck with it, that's a keeper right there!
It's the push button itself, where the lock barrel goes that is cast alloy.
Interesting - it looks the same as my 88. However, I have 4 keys with this car so it’s had a genuine VW lock set somewhere in history.
88:
(https://i.ibb.co/zrRcWWK/0-F0-AEFDB-AFCE-4911-A5-D5-6-CC4-E2-EF48-D9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pxzD66C)
84:
(https://i.ibb.co/GQgWzfq/D1-F28296-99-E8-46-FA-8242-FB27048-C1-ED8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YBvcH4x)
Looks a cracking original car there, KJets are so much more lively than digi I found, I also think the very early interior like that look the best, I also prefer the shifter bellows over the later style.
Good luck with it, that's a keeper right there!
Thanks mate, appreciate it! I prefer the earlier interior bits too!
Two Golfs.. now that is just greedy....!
Only jealous....I'd love to have a Corrado and a 190 2.6 and maybe a VR6....but we already have an Octy Scout a Citigo as well as my BB 8v moredoor!
Hope you don't unearth many surprises on the GTI.
One thing I notice about the early ones is the seat covers go baggy. I know you can get replacement foam but has anyone had any success with plumping the original foam with steam, like the guy did on the Salvage Hunters Range Rover? I know Tim has done it too, Could be a cheap fix.
Two Golfs.. now that is just greedy....!
Only jealous....I'd love to have a Corrado and a 190 2.6 and maybe a VR6....but we already have an Octy Scout a Citigo as well as my BB 8v moredoor!
Hope you don't unearth many surprises on the GTI.
One thing I notice about the early ones is the seat covers go baggy. I know you can get replacement foam but has anyone had any success with plumping the original foam with steam, like the guy did on the Salvage Hunters Range Rover? I know Tim has done it too, Could be a cheap fix.
Haha - wish I could keep them both but I've decided that the CL is now going with the GTi being the car I have wanted for a while!
Sounds a nice collection, we are downsizing this end - A3 is going, beetle is gone. Just left are the Mk2's and an Mii.
Me neither but i think its inevitable unfortunately - I
think it is likely ill uncover the seats and replace the foam on the drivers bolster. I need to work out where to get piping from too!
If you swap the foam over from another car, make sure you swap it from an early one, the 90 spec ones had a slightly different configuration. Found that one out the hard way!
Re the piping. WOOLIES have some. I guess they'd send a sample so you can check the shade match.
Red Piping (https://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/product/1661/pvc-interior-piping)
Good luck
If you swap the foam over from another car, make sure you swap it from an early one, the 90 spec ones had a slightly different configuration. Found that one out the hard way!
Thanks mate - good note because I wouldn’t have guessed that!
Re the piping. WOOLIES have some. I guess they'd send a sample so you can check the shade match.
Red Piping (https://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/product/1661/pvc-interior-piping)
Good luck
Good find - thankyou! That saves me a lot of effort searching!
Not much done on this today - I got the call that I’m going back in hospital next week for my operation - hopefully it actually goes ahead this time!
Took the evening to sort out and go through the service history - probably the most comprehensive and vast collections out of any of my cars! Every MOT history or SORN application - tax reminder/ invoice. You name it and it’s there.
Now it’s in chronological order.
(https://i.ibb.co/mGd1c7K/87868-DA6-E4-B9-47-B1-9-C34-9273-C012-C3-B5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SPHW3pg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Y7L9sRL/BFBB74-E8-DEA8-46-F3-83-F4-97-F05-AB18-D4-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pvLDF0L)
Little update:
Gave the car a quick wash so it can be put under a cover for a while. Battery is toast anyway so just need to fill the tank up with some fuel stabiliser additive and it’s good to go.
(https://i.ibb.co/DtSwjfK/247548-DE-0-C62-4-F0-A-BEC0-183-E7-B2-F7-CAA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/drzkH4K)
(https://i.ibb.co/BcgxT0M/5-AFEED32-E7-F5-48-A0-9-AE5-936-FE73962-B0.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YPtMfHs)
(https://i.ibb.co/svzK7F3/E432596-C-55-DC-4-D47-9-CAD-AC3-DB09-C842-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wNjStK6)
(https://i.ibb.co/YDkhQbR/51477889-DD10-419-D-B119-2871-E7-F4-A74-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xmj6L3C)
Whilst it was on the hard standing was easy to see how the underneath is - I think it’ll need at least one sill doing - floor pans will need stripping back to see what’s underneath as they’ve been painted.
(https://i.ibb.co/TP48FDq/5-D266560-3589-49-EA-BF7-D-06-C31022-AF5-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/r5x61Kf)
(https://i.ibb.co/X8tFfdP/FC003404-9761-40-DB-A929-81600700-F5-F8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HdqGLMy)
(https://i.ibb.co/kgq3TK2/3519-FCFB-142-D-43-F5-8-D62-B6-DC4-ED2-D1-DF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3ySfb1m)
(https://i.ibb.co/qp1y93k/3-F4-FAF5-F-9773-49-F9-A97-B-54-C3735-A9-D78.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TthvRxm)
(https://i.ibb.co/zxQjWg7/C3-F05755-A9-D7-4020-8-B4-A-B1-EECD5-D05-E0.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mTb1rKX)
(https://i.ibb.co/v14BDk8/916-F8242-35-D2-4-E4-F-8284-5-E1191-BE2-A1-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TcMTrt5)
(https://i.ibb.co/GFT9YZ5/5-A3066-D8-A69-B-479-C-8-D11-5-DEADB5-B7210.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3kzv6xC)
(https://i.ibb.co/v3Y50Ds/6743-C2-A6-911-A-48-A7-BF55-04-E307222618.jpg) (https://ibb.co/StrTFJQ)
(https://i.ibb.co/hLSsPcT/B59-C311-C-260-B-463-C-A519-AB4-D3-C17-BD38.jpg) (https://ibb.co/djRBdtH)
Did a quick hoover of the interior and started to clean in the scuttle tray just to make sure no drainage holes were blocked.
(https://i.ibb.co/W6zrddQ/4-A2-EC7-F9-E13-B-41-DC-85-B4-DD69808-D3255.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VtCFhhd)
(https://i.ibb.co/tZzPBmG/44034564-0654-49-AC-800-D-F42786-ED5118.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cbwXJgB)
Good to see another 84 GTI resurface.
What is interesting is mine was made on 17th May 84 (Mars red too) so just 1 day out from yours....The VIN plate on mine is at the bottom of the inner wing by the metering head whereas yours is positioned by the ECU, interesting.
Good luck with your plans and always good to start with a sound base which you’ve clearly got with your car.
Wow! That underside looks great, you can really see it's been looked after.
Good to see another 84 GTI resurface.
What is interesting is mine was made on 17th May 84 (Mars red too) so just 1 day out from yours....The VIN plate on mine is at the bottom of the inner wing by the metering head whereas yours is positioned by the ECU, interesting.
Good luck with your plans and always good to start with a sound base which you’ve clearly got with your car.
Thanks! Very strange, I wonder if it’s due to mine being a German Import perhaps? Any pics of yours?
Wow! That underside looks great, you can really see it's been looked after.
Yeah it’s not all bad considering - I think I’m going to bare metal it all underneath and see what’s the crack just in case!
Wow! That underside looks great, you can really see it's been looked after.
Yeah it’s not all bad considering - I think I’m going to bare metal it all underneath and see what’s the crack just in case!
I'm not sure you know exactly how bloody awful that job is!!
My best mate wanted to build a mk2 track car, so we put it on a spit and went about stripping it all down, so we could seam weld it.
It took us weeks with grinders and scrapers and all kinds of crap just trying to get the underseal off.
If I were you, I'd try a couple of localised repairs/areas first, just to get a flavour of how hard it is.
Wow! That underside looks great, you can really see it's been looked after.
Yeah it’s not all bad considering - I think I’m going to bare metal it all underneath and see what’s the crack just in case!
I'm not sure you know exactly how bloody awful that job is!!
My best mate wanted to build a mk2 track car, so we put it on a spit and went about stripping it all down, so we could seam weld it.
It took us weeks with grinders and scrapers and all kinds of crap just trying to get the underseal off.
If I were you, I'd try a couple of localised repairs/areas first, just to get a flavour of how hard it is.
Might be a better idea, especially with my surgery Friday - I’ll dwell on it and see if I outsource that one etc! Thanks!
Yep you’re probably right. I’d gladly attach a couple of pics but I can’t see an attach button on my i phone to post snaps (you can tell I’m not an avid poster lol) 🤷♂️Any tips anyone?
Yep you’re probably right. I’d gladly attach a couple of pics but I can’t see an attach button on my i phone to post snaps (you can tell I’m not an avid poster lol) 🤷♂️Any tips anyone?
In order to post pictures on here I use a site called imgbb.com
I upload on my account which is sorted via album and use “BB CODE FULL LINKED” - copy and paste, which then provides a picture once posted.
Yep you’re probably right. I’d gladly attach a couple of pics but I can’t see an attach button on my i phone to post snaps (you can tell I’m not an avid poster lol) 🤷♂️Any tips anyone?
In order to post pictures on here I use a site called imgbb.com
I upload on my account which is sorted via album and use “BB CODE FULL LINKED” - copy and paste, which then provides a picture once posted.
I’ve struggled to post pics but I’ve added a link below so fingers crossed....
Today was the first time I’ve turned her over since last year and she started on the first turn of the key 👍
https://ibb.co/album/gdNZng
Yep you’re probably right. I’d gladly attach a couple of pics but I can’t see an attach button on my i phone to post snaps (you can tell I’m not an avid poster lol) 🤷♂️Any tips anyone?
In order to post pictures on here I use a site called imgbb.com
I upload on my account which is sorted via album and use “BB CODE FULL LINKED” - copy and paste, which then provides a picture once posted.
I’ve struggled to post pics but I’ve added a link below so fingers crossed....
Today was the first time I’ve turned her over since last year and she started on the first turn of the key 👍
https://ibb.co/album/gdNZng
Looks lovely that! Your car is my new goal!
Good to hear from you Sam, hope all went well with the Op.
Lawrence - Wow, just wow!
Sam - as you're posting again, I'm hoping everything went well?
Good to hear from you Sam, hope all went well with the Op.
Lawrence - Wow, just wow!
Sam - as you're posting again, I'm hoping everything went well?
Thanks guys! Operation was successful - should be good for another 15 years - although some lifestyle and perhaps career amendments judging by current Investment Banking standards. Only issue I have is that unfortunately is my left vocal chord is paralysed - perhaps damaged nerve from the open heart so will see where this leads - just need to recover properly and can get the Blue CL finished and start this GTI properly!
Pleased to hear you’re on the mend Sam
Pleased to hear you’re on the mend Sam
Thanks for the kind words!
Hoping time may heal the issue with you vocal chord but in the scheme of things good to hear all is well and you are on the mend. I guess making sure you get plenty of rest is a priority. Maybe time to focus on "To Do" lists and organising tasks so when you are back to full strength you can make steady progress on the fleet ☺
Best wishes.
Best wishes Sam, wishing you speedy recovery
Glad to hear the op went well, fingers crossed for your vocal chords.
At least they don't stop you posting here!
Little update:
The GTI has been on my mind constantly whilst I've had the recovery time. I've had a few offers to sell up, some at considerable money. However, it's still here and should be for the long term.
Luckily, my vocal chord seems to have repaired itself so the rest of my recovery should be straight forward. However, I'm still only limited to 5KG weight limit which makes doing things a hassle.
I started looking at getting the car MOT ready, it seems that due to being an import 84' the wiring hasn't got the factory spotlamps due to coming with the single headlight setup. I'm not an automotive electrician but the wiring for me needs to be either tidied up or put back to stock. I might see if I can change it to be plug and play to change from spotlamps etc because I can't quite make up my mind at the moment.
Temporarily I've put electical tape around all the wires individually and then together to protect them as some bits do look sketchy.
(https://i.ibb.co/dBXX3bZ/5-DABE0-A7-09-BE-4-D1-F-BD5-E-E11-C9-FA12-D21.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7vBBTgh)
(https://i.ibb.co/pW7fmmb/F9-A7435-F-8717-43-C7-9-E43-CFA2957-E4211.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dbTPhhj)
(https://i.ibb.co/8jcnSdm/D1-D6-B6-A4-3591-41-C3-9-B80-2-FD7219-FE194.jpg) (https://ibb.co/THLDFbw)
After that, started by getting all the bulbs etc working:
Finally got spotlights
(https://i.ibb.co/NxxHtNX/61-DFEAEB-9-CD3-4-CD6-9-BE4-FC8-C9-AF6771-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nrr561T)
These bulbs were past it!
(https://i.ibb.co/cFytNqt/5-B1812-FD-5-E25-465-A-9-D31-CE0-A44-EECBC1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9Tp2qP2)
(https://i.ibb.co/dBXX3bZ/5-DABE0-A7-09-BE-4-D1-F-BD5-E-E11-C9-FA12-D21.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7vBBTgh)
Only thing I haven't been able to solve is indicators not working - green light stuck on the clock and hazzards not working at all. I've tried taking the relay from the blue CL and putting it in the GTI. Still nothing, so need to investigate further.
Randomly noticed too that this has a washer bottle in the bay - I thought it all boots from a rear bottle unless it's just the rear which is seperate? Anyone know anything on this?
(https://i.ibb.co/Fs2T64X/1-C9-F3-F30-212-D-4-F9-D-BAC9-F33-B0-CB67-BFC.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pWcF2jQ)
Funny enough, everything on this car is in German
(https://i.ibb.co/KrmpHnp/9-C5865-BB-D728-4-EF2-A39-B-055698023591.jpg) (https://ibb.co/W2s41C4)
Do need to buy some new headlights at some point!
(https://i.ibb.co/JQZkZjB/99-E67-F24-F36-D-4-B7-F-8-DA6-B922977-EF82-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DpdKdfV)
Also discovered that the original fabric for the sunvisors is under the retrim. I need to find a matching headliner too.
(https://i.ibb.co/2qWqBZw/7-BF1-E522-1774-45-A3-B456-4-D41-E45-FEC96.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wyBy1cT)
Looks good from a distance, although the painter is coming over to quote in the next few weeks. I'm in a toss up between painting the whole thing or trying to preserve as a surivor car by fixing the only bits that need doing. It's by no means a show car and is 'characterful':
(https://i.ibb.co/rkZ41Cd/3748094-E-1-DA5-427-A-A0-CC-A3484530-DF70.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NxLZH8T)
(https://i.ibb.co/WV1WxpJ/27-D90-BA0-FA91-42-C4-8109-20-ECA5-AA7913.jpg) (https://ibb.co/y4JnfBj)
(https://i.ibb.co/JRq661M/2-E4-C14-F0-AE6-B-4699-B87-E-DB9-A5-A5-F4-BDD.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TB1jjfF)
(https://i.ibb.co/F4Hyk7w/64456536-469-A-4-F79-ACBD-EC595-AD836-B0.jpg) (https://ibb.co/whcPZ6W)
Whole car is faded bar the painted passenger door which needs repainting due to lacquer peel. This picture makes it looks worse than it is.
Still can't do much for the moment so decided to remove the red stripe from the bumper:
(https://i.ibb.co/5h5NMNS/637-D8-B12-870-D-4460-95-BA-1-E7-BE390-B3-B0.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Kx9M0Mf)
(https://i.ibb.co/MkLS5PC/0-F617-C0-F-535-B-44-FE-8-D50-80-E7-D3593217.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8gVs4P7)
(https://i.ibb.co/xSSyp72/47-E6-DC24-4-B2-E-485-D-8539-F75-CDC090-ABA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1ff3Dm0)
Better but needs a red stripe grill.
(https://i.ibb.co/9NWDNw7/0-C1-E6781-35-AA-4183-9-F85-5-C4-A63-EFD55-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/G0R60sq)
Got a linkage rebuild kit for the GTI - need to get the CL sorted first then I can focus on this when I'm more recovered.
3 and half weeks and counting.
That's all for now!
Only thing I haven't been able to solve is indicators not working - green light stuck on the clock and hazzards not working at all. I've tried taking the relay from the blue CL and putting it in the GTI. Still nothing, so need to investigate further.
I had this issue when my hazard switch wasn't plugged in correctly. The hazard switch is a key part of the indicator loom and the indicators won't work if there's something wrong with the hazard switch. So I'd start there, check the switch is plugged in properly, if it is then check the switch itself, perhaps ask the Macs nicely to try one of theirs to see if the issue is your switch.
If the switch is OK and plug is good then I'd start following the wires back from there and check for any obvious breaks.
Good luck, hope it's an easy fix.
Only thing I haven't been able to solve is indicators not working - green light stuck on the clock and hazzards not working at all. I've tried taking the relay from the blue CL and putting it in the GTI. Still nothing, so need to investigate further.
I had this issue when my hazard switch wasn't plugged in correctly. The hazard switch is a key part of the indicator loom and the indicators won't work if there's something wrong with the hazard switch. So I'd start there, check the switch is plugged in properly, if it is then check the switch itself, perhaps ask the Macs nicely to try one of theirs to see if the issue is your switch.
If the switch is OK and plug is good then I'd start following the wires back from there and check for any obvious breaks.
Good luck, hope it's an easy fix.
Good shout, I did try unplugging and putting it back in - I’ll swap the CL and GTI switch to see if any difference occurs!
Good to see you are back in the groove. I might be wrong but I think early cars had two washer bottles later models use one with a different pump which turns either way depending on the selection.
scs
Only thing I haven't been able to solve is indicators not working - green light stuck on the clock and hazzards not working at all. I've tried taking the relay from the blue CL and putting it in the GTI. Still nothing, so need to investigate further.
I had this issue when my hazard switch wasn't plugged in correctly. The hazard switch is a key part of the indicator loom and the indicators won't work if there's something wrong with the hazard switch. So I'd start there, check the switch is plugged in properly, if it is then check the switch itself, perhaps ask the Macs nicely to try one of theirs to see if the issue is your switch.
If the switch is OK and plug is good then I'd start following the wires back from there and check for any obvious breaks.
Good luck, hope it's an easy fix.
Good shout, I did try unplugging and putting it back in - I’ll swap the CL and GTI switch to see if any difference occurs!
Forgot you had a whole spare car to swap bits from, lol
Only thing I haven't been able to solve is indicators not working - green light stuck on the clock and hazzards not working at all. I've tried taking the relay from the blue CL and putting it in the GTI. Still nothing, so need to investigate further.
I had this issue when my hazard switch wasn't plugged in correctly. The hazard switch is a key part of the indicator loom and the indicators won't work if there's something wrong with the hazard switch. So I'd start there, check the switch is plugged in properly, if it is then check the switch itself, perhaps ask the Macs nicely to try one of theirs to see if the issue is your switch.
If the switch is OK and plug is good then I'd start following the wires back from there and check for any obvious breaks.
Good luck, hope it's an easy fix.
Good shout, I did try unplugging and putting it back in - I’ll swap the CL and GTI switch to see if any difference occurs!
Forgot you had a whole spare car to swap bits from, lol
Yeah it’s quite handy like that! Swapped the hazzard switch over but unfortunately no dice!
Mystery solved:
Relay was in the wrong place:
How it was before:
(https://i.ibb.co/NKrtxBN/A79-AA8-A6-A96-A-43-DC-83-CE-AC430458-C35-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dDtjBYp)
How the CL fusebox looks like - so copied:
(https://i.ibb.co/7N5rrSd/8-C84-FC1-F-2-BDC-42-A3-992-E-0-E630-DDB7-D56.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wrXppdF)
All working now!
Darn, would have been nice to think it could have been a nice simple fix.
Darn, would have been nice to think it could have been a nice simple fix.
We must have posted at the same time! I’m looking forward to more simple fixes 😂
Good to see you are back in the groove. I might be wrong but I think early cars had two washer bottles later models use one with a different pump which turns either way depending on the selection.
scs
Thanks! I’ll have to conduct some research!
Had some time to give the car a clean today - it was ready for an agreed deal to be sold - however buyer backed out.
(https://i.ibb.co/gb1LmDs/4-E962175-33-FB-4-F4-D-A411-F0-C7821585-A3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BHD5cg8)
(https://i.ibb.co/949h7Rr/753529-EC-8-B5-A-4-CA3-834-B-9-E60-A29-DE6-FF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/T0B1szg)
(https://i.ibb.co/GMt8tZ0/BBCE3088-D072-44-BB-B347-CCA398-B09-C10.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pKRMRHx)
Red stripe from the rear bumper removed.
Gave the car a quick polish and some attention on the bumpers - rain kept stopping play
(https://i.ibb.co/617Xrbv/32389-D4-A-6-E95-4-C40-9-A3-D-CB1-B64044-A89.jpg) (https://ibb.co/z7T6Qb8)
(https://i.ibb.co/Lgpdh8d/619091-E3-6-CD9-4-BDD-9-B23-E228-B037-AAB9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6ts0Jm0)
(https://i.ibb.co/C5qxmH9/1-DC33-D95-77-E4-4027-953-B-987-D427-FB529.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8DJFN7x)
(https://i.ibb.co/nzL3j42/E56198-E5-3-C7-F-4-FB4-9-D92-5-A5-F7-E53-AD9-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zG48ZCc)
(https://i.ibb.co/27dhzD0/B52-DCCB9-1-B92-4920-A983-0-FA2235-E58-DB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DDQWBxP)
(https://i.ibb.co/tL8rNhx/6215-AB74-C6-E8-441-D-BB1-E-3-D8816-FD18-F1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jJgXx5W)
(https://i.ibb.co/K777xng/BAAFAEF4-7434-45-E8-8056-60-EDCED575-A6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3WWWmKb)
(https://i.ibb.co/3WvwrpL/2-D003-E2-E-685-F-4708-8160-7-F770-C4351-D6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/L6rMkx2)
(https://i.ibb.co/Th9RQWR/0-B828-B7-D-8-EDB-450-C-B209-1-A12-DCD95408.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XJcpnYp)
It does look good now mind.
The car is now unfortunatley listed for sale:
https://www.facebook.com/670831031/posts/10158620784426032/?d=n
The CL is soon to follow.
That thing does present very well, sure you'll get a bite in no time.
Gutted you're getting rid of it, would have like to have seen it in the metal at some point.
Question is, what are you replacing it with?
That thing does present very well, sure you'll get a bite in no time.
Gutted you're getting rid of it, would have like to have seen it in the metal at some point.
Question is, what are you replacing it with?
Yeah you know how long I’ve wanted a 3 door GTI - just seems unavoidable. If it doesn’t sell, I’ll happily restore it but it will just take some time as house will come first. The likelihood is probably nothing unfortunately but I’ll see if I can get something really cheap depending on how much money is left over etc.
Very sad update - with the house and wedding funds taking priority, the little GTI was bought a few weeks back by someone up in Yorkshire.
Last picture together:
(https://i.ibb.co/6gKVNHY/DFCB3-B3-E-7-CDE-4-ADE-A774-1-A9-CD0231227.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2gzm5vq)
Uncovered and loaded:
(https://i.ibb.co/rMzyk6X/75612-AC5-EF3-B-40-D4-BB33-15-D6549919-E9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wCP6yW2)
(https://i.ibb.co/kybG8PN/0-D578-FA2-4-A43-4-A19-92-EB-AF93-D0-F3-F7-FD.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1ny0q4F)
(https://i.ibb.co/YR8H4F8/84-C78496-A125-42-CA-8-BB0-E5-CB7232-BE0-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5MvbXgv)
(https://i.ibb.co/FBnWf21/5-BB5198-B-DFDE-4-B4-F-A846-BFAA54909294.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qRxn4K8)
Got so many people staring and pointing on the trailer
(https://i.ibb.co/pwBcmZs/BCB235-D6-F3-C9-4187-861-B-754-C5-BF1-D1-F5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DWHhqk6)
Delievered - will miss this one but some sollace is that the new owner is looking to fully restore and will join his lovely collection of cars!
(https://i.ibb.co/DVmptZS/C7-EFF53-C-4653-46-B8-B4-C7-1520199-DABFA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/smcH2ZM)
(https://i.ibb.co/DwJ390F/B18-DFF98-F644-46-FA-9296-702-A8-A853-D4-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XFQm7cP)
I will be listing a 84' specific list of findings on this thread for reference to the new owner which may help anyone else in the future.
Please feel free to add if you know anything extra:
Interior:
84 specific seat pattern
No tilt function on seats
84 - dimpled headliner (need to locate) with matching visors (present)
MFA with MPG gauge on speedo clocks - 1/2 function in top right hand corner.
Exterior:
Small Splitter
Non red stripe small bumpers
OEM Single exit exhaust (First 6 months of production 84') - Verified by Chris Teague
Single exit exhaust rear valance (First 6 months of production 84') - Verified by Chris Teague
P-slots with caps - not enscribed.
No black vinyl on the exterior sills
In this particular case - single headlight 7 slat grill with red stripe (GERMAN IMPORT ONLY) - UK Version with typical 7 slat with spotlamps and red stripe.
No rubstrips - black vinyl to replace - like Mk1 Golf.
3 piece boot window sticker
cast boot lock? - yet to verify however Tim Jay seems confident with this. (This one has had replacment boot lock so can't verify my end)
Engine wise, I belive pre 85 is also lacking a temp sensor that is fitted on later K-jets on the inlet manifold I think. I remember seeing it referenced in the Haynes Manual. But since I've had 86 and 87 early 8v's I've never looked into this further. Sad it had to go, but I understand it could have easily cost a lot to do it justice and make it the car it needs to be.
Engine wise, I belive pre 85 is also lacking a temp sensor that is fitted on later K-jets on the inlet manifold I think. I remember seeing it referenced in the Haynes Manual. But since I've had 86 and 87 early 8v's I've never looked into this further. Sad it had to go, but I understand it could have easily cost a lot to do it justice and make it the car it needs to be.
Thanks Tim - didn’t know that! Yeah for sure, although selling both ensures the house and wedding fund are complete at least! Shame it was so short lived, being honest even moving the blue one around without power steering is a bit difficult chest wise, hence the new car being DSG and easy! Perhaps I’ll be back one day! I’m first reserve on the A reg 😉
As promised - new owner got in touch with me regarding first reserve on the GTI!
Unfortunately, with my first property coming this year and wedding the year thereafter it’s not the right situation for me.
So, opening it up to the club for anyone else interested and I’ll pass on the details!
So it was bought to be restored now it’s back on the market?
So it was bought to be restored now it’s back on the market?
Yes that’s correct - it comes across as a matter of “have to” rather than “want to” - essentially it’s exactly how I sold it to him.