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Title: Newbie here.. 1.6cl auto with 16v abf conversion
Post by: hinezy92 on March 22, 2021, 12:45:49 PM
Hi All..

Bought my mk2 already converted and running gsxr 750 bike carbs. Ran a little rough but was running and very drivable.

Intention was to slowly get the car running properly, clean the car up, and have an ongoing driveable project.

Got in the car one day and noticed a knocking sound from the engine. Wasn't sure where the knocking was coming from but was going to get under the car and have a good look about. Life got in the way what with buying a new house and put the car on parents secure driveway for after I moved house and was going to have a good look. Up pops COVID and nothing more happened to the car and has now sat for about a year.

I have now got my house all sorted after a complete refurb and next thing on the list is to get the car up and running and back on the road.

I'm possibly looking at reverting the car back to injection and getting rid of the bike carbs. There are loads of bits that were done by the previous owner which were never finished which also need sorting.

Though I would join the forum to possibly get some help/advise on what I should be looking out for or look at changing along the way.

Best,

Charlie
Title: Re: Newbie here.. 1.6cl auto with 16v abf conversion
Post by: hinezy92 on March 24, 2021, 06:44:49 PM
Managed to look at the car today after charging the battery up.

Had a fuel pump issue at first and have a badly perished fuel line which will need replacing but managed to get the car running.

Still have the loud knocking noise which seems to be coming from the gearbox. When the clutch is depressed, the sound quietens down.

Next step will be to remove the gearbox and have a look. Possibly flywheel?

Need to also change the fuel line for new one. Any recommendations on a decent fuel line?
Title: Re: Newbie here.. 1.6cl auto with 16v abf conversion
Post by: vw-widow on March 25, 2021, 04:09:14 PM
Hi, ask about fuel lines on the golf chat might get a better response
Title: Re: Newbie here.. 1.6cl auto with 16v abf conversion
Post by: Eddypeck on March 29, 2021, 11:35:57 AM
Hi and welcome

Could be as simple as the thrust bearing if it goes away when the clutch is pressed. But either way the box needs to come off. Hope it's a simple cheap fix for you.
Title: Re: Newbie here.. 1.6cl auto with 16v abf conversion
Post by: hinezy92 on July 13, 2021, 09:28:40 PM
Got round to taking the gearbox off. Took the flywheel off and the bolts on the pressure plate were a bit loose allowing it to wobble. Pretty sure this is the cause of the problem!

Going to put new clutch kit in.

One issue I’m having is removing the pressure plate! I have removed the 6 bolts but it won’t come away. Almost seems as though the pressure plate is stuck behind the ‘centre pin’. Any recommendations for removing this. I tried a pry bar behind one side with no luck. Have sprayed a load of lubricant on it so hopefully eases it over night.

Title: Re: Newbie here.. 1.6cl auto with 16v abf conversion
Post by: Eddypeck on July 14, 2021, 08:48:47 AM
try and lever it evenly from multiple locations around the rim to ease it off straight. good luck
Title: Re: Newbie here.. 1.6cl auto with 16v abf conversion
Post by: hinezy92 on July 14, 2021, 06:33:36 PM
Cheers Eddy, will give that a go!
Title: Re: Newbie here.. 1.6cl auto with 16v abf conversion
Post by: hinezy92 on August 10, 2021, 09:43:06 PM
Managed to get the pressure plate off. Took some force.

Offered up the new clutch and its as though the clutch centre hole is too small for the crankshaft end. Is this normal? I thought it should just slot straight over with no issues.

Has anyone else experienced this?
Title: Re: Newbie here.. 1.6cl auto with 16v abf conversion
Post by: Monkey on August 11, 2021, 09:37:16 AM
Hmm, what clutch have you bought?
Was it an ABF clutch? Do you know what gearbox you have?

Depending on how the previous owner has done the conversion, you could be running an 020 box (original mk2) or an 02A box (mk3).
If you can get a photo up, we can identify what you have/what you need.

Also have you compared new to old? See if there's a difference.

Hi by the way :)
Title: Re: Newbie here.. 1.6cl auto with 16v abf conversion
Post by: hinezy92 on August 11, 2021, 02:04:28 PM
Hi Monkey, thanks for the reply. I have an 020 box.

I bought the following clutch as after reading around this is what I assumed would fit and is exactly as what was in already;

https://www.heritagepartscentre.com/uk/027198141c-1-8-16v-gti-210mm-clutch-kit.html?qty=1

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Hopefully images show as not posted pictures on here before!
Title: Re: Newbie here.. 1.6cl auto with 16v abf conversion
Post by: Monkey on August 11, 2021, 03:29:39 PM
Unfortunately, photos aren't working for me
Title: Re: Newbie here.. 1.6cl auto with 16v abf conversion
Post by: hinezy92 on August 11, 2021, 05:21:50 PM
Hopefully below link works;

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8mkd5jugeqo2d6r/AABRIILL3HwSqW2YfuA3_lhja?dl=0
Title: Re: Newbie here.. 1.6cl auto with 16v abf conversion
Post by: L90E on August 11, 2021, 06:29:30 PM
There you go, though they're quite large and may not load all that quickly...

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Title: Re: Newbie here.. 1.6cl auto with 16v abf conversion
Post by: t2000 on August 11, 2021, 07:27:56 PM
There should be a code under the bottom of the bell housing, also good resource for 020 boxes http://www.brokevw.com/
Title: Re: Newbie here.. 1.6cl auto with 16v abf conversion
Post by: hinezy92 on August 12, 2021, 05:39:45 PM
Hi t2000, thanks for the link. Have had a look through and some useful info.

The code on the bell housing is - 4T04088  7 have put a picture of it in the link below;

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zgymyccpi4qufus/Photo%2012-08-2021%2C%2017%2026%2030.jpg?dl=0

Spoke with Vwheritage and they sent me a link for a 228mm clutch for an ABF but that won’t work with the gearbox.

I know I need a 210mm clutch which works with a 24mm main shaft. One I have is for a 22mm main shaft.

Appreciate the help guys
Title: Re: Newbie here.. 1.6cl auto with 16v abf conversion
Post by: hinezy92 on August 12, 2021, 08:31:43 PM
I meant to say  clutch I have is 24mm and need 22mm.

I believe the shaft end on the abf is around 49/50mm

When looking at  clutches I can’t see sizes of the hole where the end of the shaft goes in (where pressure plate bolts to engine)

It looks like last clutch that was on there had hole widened somehow and forced on.
Title: Re: Newbie here.. 1.6cl auto with 16v abf conversion
Post by: hinezy92 on February 11, 2022, 04:27:09 PM
Well.. has been a while since I posted on here but everything is back together. New clutch all in, gearbox service and engine service done along with changing the fuel lines in the bay.

Now the bad part…. I’m putting her up for sale! Very reluctantly so!

After moving house and having two kids, I just don’t get to use her and she’s sitting on the driveway. It seems a shame to have a car that doesn’t get the use she deserves! I’ll put up an Add shortly with all the details and hopefully get a bit of interest.
Title: Re: Newbie here.. 1.6cl auto with 16v abf conversion
Post by: hinezy92 on February 14, 2022, 03:09:07 PM
Well she is up for sale in the Market Place section.

Looking for a quick sale on this so open to sensible offers.